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One has to see how silly this is. Playing a game does not impact anything. Being addicted to a game does.

BUT, and here is the point, being addicted to anything will have some performance on any job. We have all heard stories of WOW players who have lost their jobs, their families (not married anymore) and their homes; and are still trying to find a way to play this game. But, that is an addiction and should be treated just like any other addiction.

They should hire based on skill, and manage if someone has an addiction that effects job performance.

I cant see how someone would not hire you because of what yo do outside of work unless it was illegal or a conflct of intrest. I'm the only one at my job that plays wow while everyone else is into the rock console games. Freecell is the real distraction at work. I grew up with the atari 2600, nintendo, etc along with many others in my age bracket. Video games are a staple with most games catering to a post teen market. Not hiring someone because they play a game in thier free time is just stupid.

I think theres still a market for company retreats involving playing WoW as a team building exercise.

How would employers screen potential employees without it being considered a discriminatory act? I can see why certain companies or agencies force their candidates to undergo drug testing or even background checks (like my current employer), especially when safety or security is a concern. However, to ask people if they play WoW is, to me, far fetched. It's almost as bad as being asked what your religious beliefs or political leanings are. It's simply a matter that should not be discussed during an interview, and if it is, the candidate should at least express his or her concerns on the nature of the question and maybe even go so far to end the interview.

I'm an alcoholic, i've always disclosed this in job intervieuws. And as long as i get on a job sober, don't drink during the job and don't outperform no one ever seems bothered, I've lost two job intervieuws because someone wasn't a *risk* factor like i was. Grounds for a law suit but i didn't persui it since tbh if someone is single, had the same experience and doesn't have my problem then tbh i'd hire them aswell instead of myself if i was the manager. But on the other hand, my * addiction * has never ever served as a reason to terminate my job, in fact the 1 time i was ever fired was when a company wide re organisation took place and it had nothing to do with my * problem * In my opinion just labeling someone that has an interist in something that might pose a problem in job interviews is a possible legal pitt fall as it's simply not allowed at all. And as long as job performance doesn't suffer, ( eg no hangovers or being cranky for not sleeping because of wow ) whatever someone is doing in their free time is not an issue. ( offcource harming your employer intentionatley during this time is excluded from previous statement )

// Skippy

Outperform in previous post should be misperform, or whatever, english is not my native tongue...

"He said there is a belief that WoW players cannot give 100% because their focus is elsewhere," what a lame excuse. Soooooo, the only thing anybody could possibly daydream about is WOW?

I guess he's got something there. I've never worked with anybody who spends as much time on their job as they do chatting about sports; or sneaking a peak at their ebay auctions or browsing something online, or getting text messages or phone calls from the kids at home, or are more interested in making friends or 'hooking-up" with the newest hottie temp the company just hired.

Yup, never seen any of that happen.

Just because you participate in some sort of behavior, doesn't mean you are so consumed by it that it hinders your job performance.

This practice of not hiring people with certain hobbies is nothing new to the employment world. WoW is just the next in a long line of activities that certain "employment specialists" have deemed to be a negative influence on potential employees.

For the longest time there has been a theory that suggested that golf was basically creating the problem described in Juggy's post, people couldn't stay focused on their work because they were to concerned with golf.

What most people fail to realize is that even though some of the richest Americans are people who work constantly and never have any down time, most people need to escape work. If WoW is your escape than you are no different than a person who goes to bars, or golfs, or texts people until their fingers bleed.

Most employers realize this, but their are a select few who's short sighted approach to human resources management causes them to invent ridiculous mandates like "Don't hire WoW players." Give it time, pretty soon they'll be blaming something else for hurting their bottom line.

I wouldn't go out of my way to tell somebody i play WoW, but it's not all a bad thing. Look at raid leader running into a new raid blind. When something goes bad you can have your "bad" leader, or your "good" leader. the bad leader will probobly start panicing, and blaming people for the wipe. The good one will take charge and start accesing the situation (sorry for anything mispelled) then come up with a solution right on the spot. Throw that into a RL job such as with computers in an office, and the servers crash. People have no clue what to do, but you step in and come up with an idea such as backing up work on a hardrive finishing what you have and hand delivering it to the boss. Im not saying WoW will make you a CEO of a company. But somethings sure will help. Am i right or am i right.

I am Store Director at a retail store, and I have to say that this is just flat out stupid. Four of the seven managers I've hired play WoW and do there jobs very efficiently, and have good people management skills. They go me into playing WoW, and to all those who say that managing a guild of any decent size (50+ different members) doesn't improve leadership skills you are wrong. Managing a guild is harder than a big department store. You have to have the respect of people you will most likely never meet to keep them together, in line, and make them go along with your decisions, because if not then you'll be out one guildie. Where as in real life if they don't listen to what you say or respect you or agree with your decisions then it's their problem cause they're the ones out of a job. I encourage the hiring of RESPONSIBLE WoW players. Their are ways to make sure people don't play, or look stuff about it up while on the clock. I can't count how many times I've seen an employee on break, or lunch that's looking up stuff or talking about WoW, but I monitor every computer that's on our network and only once in four years have I found someone on the clock looking up something about WoW, and it turned out to be a managers son on the computer while his dad was getting ready to go home. All-in-all WoW players make the best, and most enjoyable employees, and guild leaders make damn good management staff.

People are people. I've known WoW players that I wouldn't hire to dig a hole in my backyard and others that should be running NASA. To slap a lable in whole on one group is an embarassing position for a company to take in its hiring practices. As far as broadening the scope a little and saying the MMORPG community is a more fair group to label is still generalizing a wide range of people and abilities under one banner.

I find myself more concerned in interviewing potential employees with drug and alcohol problems, criminal records, etc . . . than those with addictions to video games. While I may get people who measure their level of awake in gallons of coffee . . I find them to be no less effective than those who spend their nights watching TV until 2am or out clubbing until its time to shower for work.

Besides, if the most compelling criteria for the job is "Do you play WoW?" . . . as the job seeker I would be more concerned about the quality of the company.

i think that employers that avoid any kind of potential employees no matter the reason have something very wrong with their heads. Sure everyone likes the new hot secretary, or that second floor girl who always smiles to you in the elevator or that girl in accounting that won't notice that you are staring at her boobs 98% of the time but just because someone plays a game or is just not so easy on the eye it doesn't mean that they aren't capable of doing the job :|

I've never been asked if I play video games.. proabably becauce I'm a girl, but even still, my playing WoW has nothing to do with my ability to do my job. If it did, then it would be clear that playing WoW would have to be scaled back. I love it, and it's so much fun, but if you're too into an online video game to continue doing your job irl, you've got a problem. It all depends on the person.

"Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... **** with us."

Well said Quelheure or shoud I say, Jack's Carpal Tunnel from Raiding Kara all night.

To me this is just a form of discrimination. It has been well said in the comments here that there is no way to clump together the entirety of WoW players. I work a job where my manager thinks I'm the most productive employee there. And I play wow. The other people are just plain lazy, annoys me, and they don't play wow. Then again it could be vice versa, you could have a complete retard who plays wow working at a place and be the worst worker there. We've all met the good and the bad in WoW. It's just a matter of distinguishing which is which.

Sad thing if this is how recruiters do their thing. If the applicant was a certified addict, he/she wouldn’t bother to find a job in the real world to earn real money rather wow gold.

When I was looking for a job about a year ago, I put in an application to a big name company. about a week later I had a phone interview, asked all the normal questions, then started asking what I do in my spare time. I told them that I like to play MMO's. They then asked which ones, I told them WoW. Then the interview ended with them saying i would be in the next group hired, blah, blah blah. 4 months later they call back wanting to hire me, I took the job. Now even when i'm on my break or lunch and try talking about anything pertaining to WoW the managers look at us and frown. I have even had to have a talk with my sup because they think that WoW will eventually distract me from my job and they want me to stop playing before that happens.

How about everyone start writing the truth about job recruiters. They are liars, scum, cheats and need to start feeling fear.

The way of doing business through job recruiters needs to end.

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