Fond Memories: Pronunciation
Posted by iTZKooPA on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 45 Comments Tags: Pronunciation, Ulduar, blue posts, caydiem, fond memories, google search, hard to say words, how to pronounce, old forum posts
What does pronunciation have to do with a fond memory, let alone World of Warcraft? Allow me to paint you a (paint by numbers) picture. I was cleaning out my bookmarks a few weeks ago and I came across a thread I saved from 2005 entitled "How do you pronounce Scholomance?" Filled with glee and excitement, I clicked on the link to relive the joy that 2005 had brought me, but it was all for naught thanks to Blizzard and the forum pruning. Dejected but not broken, I tried a quick Google search and came across an archived version of the thread. It is difficult to read and it repeats itself for some reason, but now-retired CM Caydiem, and the other forum goers, deliver a bunch of win in the thread.
I must hand it to the original poster though, that was a brave question to ask more than six months after the title was released. It was also a good one. Seeing as the game and its locations are largely made up via the MMORPG's various racial dialects, it can be quite difficult to discern the correct pronunciation. As the thread points out, sometimes Blizzard doesn't even know the "correct" phonetics to the words. There are a ton of phrases from World of Warcraft that I have heard mispronounced in various way. I'll admit that I just recently learned the correct pronunciation of Ulduar (Ull-doo-ar). Reaching further back there are common mistakes with the Draenei (DRAN-eye), their buddies the Naaru (na-ru), TBC's main city Shattrath, C'Thun (Kah-Thoon) and everyone's favorite goblin town of Gadgetzan (Gadget-zan). I was off on only two of those, drain-y and ul-der.
I honestly don't know the official pronunciation of Shattrath City. Personally, I have always said Shatt-wrath, but find a silent th, Shatt-ra, to be acceptable as well due to the draenei roots. You'd think that I would have learned from my guild's ventrilo, but how often do people say the whole location, rather than Shat? Perhaps my guildmates don't know the intended sound of the city either...
What commonly used locations and words do you hear murdered during your travels? At the same time, please state the perceived correct way to say the words in question. The thing that makes me chuckle the most is that English words like melee and buffet are botched to this day!
As for spelling misteakes, that is an entirely different discussion. All this talk of steaks and smorgasbords is making me hungry.
I must hand it to the original poster though, that was a brave question to ask more than six months after the title was released. It was also a good one. Seeing as the game and its locations are largely made up via the MMORPG's various racial dialects, it can be quite difficult to discern the correct pronunciation. As the thread points out, sometimes Blizzard doesn't even know the "correct" phonetics to the words. There are a ton of phrases from World of Warcraft that I have heard mispronounced in various way. I'll admit that I just recently learned the correct pronunciation of Ulduar (Ull-doo-ar). Reaching further back there are common mistakes with the Draenei (DRAN-eye), their buddies the Naaru (na-ru), TBC's main city Shattrath, C'Thun (Kah-Thoon) and everyone's favorite goblin town of Gadgetzan (Gadget-zan). I was off on only two of those, drain-y and ul-der.
I honestly don't know the official pronunciation of Shattrath City. Personally, I have always said Shatt-wrath, but find a silent th, Shatt-ra, to be acceptable as well due to the draenei roots. You'd think that I would have learned from my guild's ventrilo, but how often do people say the whole location, rather than Shat? Perhaps my guildmates don't know the intended sound of the city either...
What commonly used locations and words do you hear murdered during your travels? At the same time, please state the perceived correct way to say the words in question. The thing that makes me chuckle the most is that English words like melee and buffet are botched to this day!
As for spelling misteakes, that is an entirely different discussion. All this talk of steaks and smorgasbords is making me hungry.
Reader Comments (45)
I have a gift of being able to pronounce all the weird names in wow correctly, Ive even had a few tickets opened in arguments only to find out I was saying it the right way and making the people who opened the ticket look like an idiot.
But the one word I hear mispronounced is my main char.'s name Felith is almost always said "Feel-ith" when I ment it to be said "Fell-ith" after a while it starts to bother me.
I also hear the following pronounced incorrectly:
Dreanei (drain-y)
Scholomance (show-low-mane)
Stratholme (strat-holme)
Shattrath (shat-a-wrath) and (sath-a-ruh)
Kel'thuzad (kel-thoo-zad)
Dalaran (dalar-an)
Mike Shramm and his Howling Fah-jord. >_>
It's Fyord >_< gah, bugs me everytime, even though he jokes about it.
Blizzard to like playing with their pronounciations, Kel'Thuzad and Quel'Thelas used to get me. (Kel tuh zad and Qwell Fell Ass, I used to say =-p)
As for me, this is one I've had so much, after hearing it used in Wow...
Should it be (Naxxramas) Nacks-ra-mahs, or Nacks-ram-is? And when we come to the floating necropoli in Wow... would it be Ar-ker-us, or Ack-er-us (Acherus).
Let's face it, I doubt even Blizz can pronounce half of the names they've made in the game. Just makes it more fun, with humourous, meaningless discussions about the names (Not this thread. This thread raises good questions, and you get to see different pronunciations of words you knew).
Wut about the dreaded Ankh .....? and if its plural?...
i need Ankhs? pretty rough. i never feel ive said it right
Dalaran:
Dal AH ran
Dal A Ran
Dol aran
?????? HELP!!!!!!
Being a lore nut, names have always been of great importance to me. I know with certainty that I pronounce almost all of them properly. That is, except for some with vowels that i make more poignant (None come to mind right now, but I tend to make vowels in exotic names pointed).
On the subject of Stratholme- I always pronounce it "Strath-holme" with the seccond h kind of melded with the first one. This is how I remember the name said in the Warcraft III human capaign, but I always know it my heart it should be strat-holme, because holme is a standalone word that's used as part of the name.
@kstroud:
Are you sure elyon is pronounced like that? I always say it with a shva beneath the L, but you've got me questioning that.
My friends pronounce Orgrimmar as Oh-grim-meer and it always bothers me.
i used rpounce prounce stratholme stratholome now i prounce it stra-tholme
here is tongue twister kil'jaeden kil'jodon kil'jayden kil'jaden corrently i prounce it kil'jayden i dont know it its right
My orc warrior was named Ugluck after Ugluk (yes i know i forgot the accent) and people to this day pronounce it Oo-Glak and my Rogue Blaggut (From the Redwall series
) people called me Bluh get. it should be Blah gut .
btw i used to say scholomance skool oh mance :P (i was only like 9 then)
Orgrimmar is easy just think Orgrim (the Orc chieftan it was named after)
ive never had problems pronouncing any of those... but there are so many people that do have problems pronouncing even english words.
if you actually read ulduar it sounds just how its spelt.
I don't have too many problems when I actually bother to read the letters in the word or name. Messing up made up names in no way shape or form bothers me, much. I usually go by whatever language the fictional one is based off and approximate that pronunciation. But it is amusing when people mess up English words or even common foreign language loan words. Ulduar was easy enough for me. The rest of the Norse stuff? Not so much. I mean, I can know how to say, but that doesn't mean I can.
Alex! Alex says Oh-grih-mar alot. Or Ogre-mar. It's named after Orgrim Doomhammer. Orgrim-mar. Kind of like how Danville is named after some guy named Dan.
Dalaran is funny to hear on vent, usually goes like this:
hey, meet me in dahl-uh-ran? err, dal-awr-en. um, dal? uh just meet me there.
Or in raids when the raid leader is explaining the fight, and is trying to say the bosses name correctly, that amuses me too.
I say scholomance as "skohl-oh-manse", I say dalaran as "dal-awr-un" even though I'm 90% sure that's incorrect.
I say draenei as "drah-neye", and shattrath as "shat-rath". Finally, stratholme as "strath-olm". =)
oh! and:
I've also heard reagent as "rejent" and it makes me giggle.
My characters name people say kim-a-gal or kim-a-gall
It say it (yes being the inventor of it (only kimeghale in game last i looked in armory)) i want it said Kime-gale
My name gets it a lot.
Amynna
Ah-mi-na
It gets shortened to "Amy" a lot, when a phonetic shortening would be "Mina"
I've gotten in debates over the pronunciation of "herb" and "herbalism" before. I say it without the H, some say it with. Even in trade chat, it's obvious how someone pronounces it - a herb vs an herb.
Oddly, my biggest issue with the Scholomance is the definite article. It's unnecessary, I know, but to me, it looks wrong as just "Scholomance". The "Scholo" abbreviation is fine, but spell it out and I will tack "the" on there.
The one that irks me the most is Naxxramas. A lot of people I know pronounce it as Nacks(rhymes with snacks)-ram-is. Coming from an English major and being one who excels in public speaking and pronunciation, I feel that the correct pronunciation should be Knocks-rom(rhymes with mom)-us. It just sounds wierd being Nacks, and it also just sounds obnoxious instead of dreadful, which is how the name should sound considering what it represents: a floating fortress of agony under the rule of one of the first and most loyal subjects of the Lich King.
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