Project Lore

So I play an average of 14hours on weekend days and 4-8hours on weekdays everyday am i hardcore LoL? i think i might be. what i always hear from my parents though is that playing the computer too long and not going outside with you mates is bad. But why? i hang out with pretty much all my friends online thats what we enjoy doing, possibly i do play excessive amount of time but seriously what else am i gona do, parents always suggest "read a book, go outside, study" its like Na bet you didn't when your my age i wana have fun not be a lamer.

p.s
First post =D

Well the only comment for me is that picture...

Is that really your room or not?

If it is stop reading this and go clean =P

in how you define it,I'm a hardcore,oh crap,should prob lower my time spent on it :S

I treated WoW like a 2nd job. The difference with this job is that I don't get paid, but do the opposite.
Hardcore, for me, is skipping out on family events to grind on .

Am I hardcore yet? Who cares, I quit last year.

I'm definitely casual. For myself, the joy of the game is the questing. I love the quests. Endgame raiding is fun for me but in small doses, and as long as the rest of the raid is having "fun" and not treating it like a job. I have one of those, and it pays money. :)

What about those of us who form completely new websites for their guild, spend at least 3 hours every day reading forums, Wowhead, and WoWWiki, crunch the latest numbers into their DPS spreadsheets, post several topics on the forums, then come home to play about hours of WoW a night, following a game plan and outline that has been in the works for months about how to gear up each toon at the same rate so that all my 70s have the same quality items?

Wow... ok, just depressed myself there a bit.

Its not really how much time you play that makes a hardcore or newb. Since hardcore players are generally considered good players and newbs total idiots its skill that separates the two. Hardcore players use outside sources to learn how to play their class maximizing their dps/heals/aggro. Blogs, Guides, and videos that exist help out a lot and interacting with the community helps with those little known tidbits that are usually discovered only over time and with experience. Newbs don't. They play the game blissfully unaware of half the things their class can do and enjoy only a very small part of the game. A newb a can go years and level to endgame unaware that they suck so badly at a game still really enjoy it. But really its not their fault, considering the availability and anonymity of the game that rogue who keeps runing ahead of the tank in ramparts could be an 8 year old, mentally handicapped or playing for the first time on his brothers account. Don't be an asshat and yell at him with a series of acronyms he probably wont understand just be nice and point him to some of those neat resources you have been using for a while.

One of my friends that called himself "hard-core" said that being hard-core is wanting to be better than everyone else and getting the best gear, even if it means grinding forever. to him grinding for stuff=hard-core

I on the other hand completely disagreeing with him thinks that being hard-core is about how much you love the entirety of the game, not just to have fun. When you think reading about theorycrafting and guides is fun, then in my opinion you're pretty hard-core.

It's not either how much you play, Since some people are just not able to, for reasons like work/school/family.

But overall hard-cores probably spend more time on a game, since they like it so much.

my 2 cents

Is it hardcore, when; you're on a train journey & you look @ fields, rivers, hills, streams & stuff... and wonder "where's the mining, fishing, etc at...?"

If so, I need help...! :(

While I agree in part with the definitions iTZKooPA provided in regards to 'hardcore' and 'casual', the two terms are, in my opinion, just too broad a generalization to put any player in. There are so many aspects of WoW that it is just as easily to be considered hardcore in one and casual in another.

For example, one of my guildies is hardcore when it comes to PvP. Its about all he does. Even his alts are planned out well before 70 for PvP. Now when it comes down to PvE (instances, raids, etc.) he hasn't any clue on what he should do. He has run a few instances though and that would make him a casual player in that regard.

What it comes down to is, what about the game do you focus on the most? If you focus on the lore and story of the game, you're a hardcore loremaster. If you focus on PvP, a hardcore PvPer. The same for raiding, questing, farming. Everything else, you're a casual player.

And regardless of the time you spend playing, even someone who plays only a few hours a week can be hardcore. It is what you do when you play, not how long you play that defines whether you're hardcore or not.

As for your 'noob' status, that cannot really define how hardcore you are. Its easy for someone who has never raided, focusing only on PvP, to join a group for Karazahn and be considered a noob because they have little idea on their role. The reverse holds true for a raider first experiencing any real PvP. The term noob, in all its incarnations, has always and will always be derogetory anyhow, so to even use it as a serious term to describe someone unfamiliar with an aspect of the game is just silly.

Which brings me to the point of my comment... When does Alexis get her own show focusing on PvP? Project Lore: PvP Edition, with Alexis as the host would be really hardcore.

Don't be silly Hardcore is just dedicating a lot of time to the game, Casual is just playing when you feel like it not dedicating most of your spare time to the game.

That is what hardcore and casual means.

Fact.

@Claxo,
OMG best idea i have heard on these forums so far! PL stand up take note lol, seriously pvp is such a major part of the game it seems silly to pass up an idea like this i think we can be pretty sure that Alexis would be perfect to present a pvp special as we have seen her playing and she is obviously a hardcore pvper, thats my 2cents :)

Noob is someone that doesn't know how to play their class, be it someone who just started or someone who has played the game for years. The Noob is prone to ask stupid questions about their class at level 70 that they should have known since level 30. Noobs sometimes also think they are good players and don't understand why they are sometimes passed over for raids and groups.

Casual is someone who might do one or two quests here and there, but mainly plays to talk with people. Casual players might have no knowledge of their class or be very well versed in how to play the game but don't opt to play the game much; they mostly monitor the trade chat for conversation. A casual player may or may not do instances, but you will never really see them in raids.

Hardcore is someone who plays the game and spends time learning their class and actually knows how to play their class. They will spend a lot of time PvP'ing, instancing or Raiding. They have a knowledge of the games economy, and try to profit from it. They may only play the game 10 hours a week, but try to make the most of that time, by trying to improve their character.

CAn you be both hardcore and casual? I play the game every day for at least a couple of hours but i've never got a character to level 70 and never done any of the instances past level 60. I'm kinda funny cos i love playing just for the sake of playing. I like exploring areas and getting flightpaths and seeing things just as much as questing and instances. (I remember being in eastern plaguelands at level 20 just to see what it was like). I love reading the lore and some days i just like sitting in Org watching the world pass by. Maybe being hardcore or casual is more about your attitude to the game rather than how long or what gear your character has?

In terms of WoW, I don't really think the terms "Hardcore" and "Casual" really apply.

We all know this game is highly addictive. So a person who plays almost every free moment he or she has is not necessarily hardcore, but addicted. They are the people who must get their "fix" about the game through any and all blogs, websites, cheat sites, and wikis when not actually playing.

Can you be casually addicted? Yes. You would be the sort who has to set down a set and budgetted time per day to limit how much you actually play beaude you realized WoW was taking over your life (sound familiar to anyone?)

A noob can be then classified as the person who takes their first steps into the game and where the addictive effects haven't quite warped their mind yet. Do they know how to play correctly? No, but then, really, do you? Do they make mistakes? Yes. From there, that person can either become a WoW junkie or become aware of the addiction and back off a bit.

So, with this definition offered up, how do you rate yourself?

Me, I'm the Casual. I know I'm addicted, but I don't let it rule my life (-_- says the girl posting on a WoW gaimg blog -_-)

TBH - when it comes down to it the simplest definition for me is:

If you log on already knowing EXACTY what you want to do, eg "im gonna buy ammo (go hunter) flaks and wait 10 mins before raid INVs and raid from X till Y" - hardcore

If you log on and Diside what you doing as it comes to you eg "Think i'll PVP" but not knowing which BG or If your arena team is online.

just remember its what you do genraly coz we all have moments lol.

Oh and btw stop calling new players noob's kinda harsh to be offencive lowbie is ALLOT fairer , not offencive but is a genral term for a NEW player ,not a bad player!

i enjoy the game alot and play regularly, but i might not be considered hardcore except by my friends who think warcraft is lame Xb. but i have encountered players who take the game WAY to seriously. there is a limit, no matter how often you play. I ran uldaman with a group and one "girl" character was p/oed that i had needed on a few loot items that i actually needed! seriously there is a point where people need to chill and just play the game. but when it comes to hardcore gamers, some can be on the wierd side and take it a little too seriously. hopefully the amount they play wont interfere with their interaction with other, less experienced players... Xb

I think the term"hardcore" can be defined socially. If the person tends to be a total asshat-- if it seems the person is so anal about the game, raids, guild politics, etc-- that you know if you met that person in real life you'd want top punch him in the face well-- that guy is hardcore.