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so what does the druid gear look like?

this was to be expected. blizz has been doing this with pvp gear sets for a while now. The lowest end generally gets bumped off while the next highest set becomes more easily obtainable. I think that blizz is probably doing this also since the the problems they've had getting people to pvp or do arena. Since the day wrath came out and welfare epics went bye-bye the amount of pvpers has dropped much further than blizz anticipated. I'm sure a lot of the new changes in 3.1 are aimed at bringing back those people to bg's and arena. (personally i don't think enough changes were made to make a big enough difference to increase the pvp aspect of the game, but we'll see.)

i agree kiley since the biggest problem with the honr system (battleground system to be exact) hasn't even been looked into.

And this problem being rewarding those that do nothing with the same as those that do all the work in the battle. Or people forming losing battlegrounds to get "free" marks and "free" honor.

Only if blizzard would implement a system of awarding honor fairly based on participation in the event based on damage or healing done throughout the course of the battle. And in conjunction with this only awarding marks if the battle is won and not if you lose.

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Yep. Them's quite the words you got there Wowbsthunta.

@Alex
while i agree that it is not fair for those who do nothing or form losing groups to get "free" honor and marks, I a few thoughts that disagree with the option to base honor on damage/healing done. There is more to each battleground than killing/healing, as flags/towers need to be captured, etc. Awarding honor based on damage/healing would lead to a lack of desire to complete the actual objectives.
Just my thoughts...

LOL That's a bummer, I got the full 5/5 Savage when I hit 80 back in December, and now they are outdated already. Granted I have upgraded 2 pieces and got a few of the offset stuff but it still stings a little knowing I used all that honor for nothing this early into an expansion......oh well...

@joebobfred
True there are objectives in each battleground event. But in each event if you are an active paticipant you are always incountering a horde or alliance factioned player or objective PvP based NPC such as in the strand or AV. But to sit in the starting area and do nothing just so you can get free honor and marks is wrong IMO. and the system can easily be setup so it takes all this into account such as like when you do the quests for batlegrounds if you're activly participation to achieve an objective then yes you deserve something but if you're 1 of those that sit around and do nothing but heal yourself so it shows you're participating or you're sending things like pets in to attack players so it removes the debuff just before the battle ends so you get your free mark is soSO wrong.
I've been actively sending emails to try o get the changes needed looked into. such changes as BG leaders have the ability to boot AFKers or the option that it takes only 1 person to report AFKers instead of 10+ and reduce the time from 3 minutes to just 1 before you're buffed as inactive. and once flagged inactive you're booted automatically and flagged deserter and can't rejoin for 15 minutes
These changes alone will help deter AFKers from joining in the first place
But the changes such as the tracking of whether you're actively participating towards an objective in a battle or not would help also promote more "active" participation in the event o get better honor rewards.
Like i aways say if ya win a battleground you get more honor reward and more marks then if ya lose, and making it to where if ya lose you get no mark it'll help by weeding out the people who are there just for marks from those who are there for the fun of beating up on the opposing faction players thus the meaning of PVP.

@Alex
ok, i may have misunderstood your original post, i agree with what you said in the new one :)