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Calling All Priests - 3.0.2 Spec Chat Here

So How About This For CRITSI believe that one of the biggest issues with raiding and partying in World of Warcraft is ego. So many people out there think that they know the game better than the creators themselves.  That confidence can often be a player's downfall. The fact of the matter is this, probably less than 1% of World of Warcraft players know it well enough to be considered experts at the game.

Sure, many players known their class very well, but do they know its utility for raids, parties, Battlegrounds, Arenas and every boss fight? Not likely. What about the other classes?  Do they know how to get the most out of the Auction House? The ins and outs of WoW's scripting language? The often neglected lore? Doubtful.

You may think I am here to gripe about how we could all open our eyes and learn a little from our guildmates, PUG-mates or Buddhism, but I promise you that isn't the case. Sure, I showed an officer last night that he could link his professional abilities rather than telling everyone what he can do, but he was gracious about learning from the “new blood.” I am actually here to ask for help.

If you have been following my blog here at Project Lore, then you know that I made a Priest alt for the Refer-a-Friend promotion. I have never, ever, in all the MMOs I have played, gone healing. With Wrath coming in less than a month's time, I figured now is as good a time as any. With the refunded talent points I created this healing spec. Let me restate this, while I know the basics of healing, I certainly do not know the nitty-gritty details. My spec was designed to reduce casting time and mana consumption, while bolstering heals and crit heals and the chance to crit. Survivability was an afterthought.

I do realize that being new to the “keeping people alive” rather than “killing everything that moves” mentality will likely cause me to waste tons of mana on overheals. So, the Serendipity talent is something I will likely move too. So Priests, and healers in general, now is your time to shine. Constructive criticism is greatly appreciated – that means the first poster better have some good input – and it just doesn't have to be talent spec pointers. Good addon, macro or rotation suggestions are welcome too!

I did create one macro already, my personal “Oh, shit!” button which I stole from my brother's old Priest. It yells, says, sends to party and raid the following message: “Fox! Get this guy off me!”

Reader Comments (39)

If you're using Grid I'd also recommend getting Clique - it's an addon that allows one-click healing on unit frames. Alternatively you can write mouse-over macros for all of your main healing spells. I used to be a die-hard Clique fan but after running addon-less on the beta I'm probably going to stick with mouseover macros.

October 17, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSilkath

Well the basic Macros I have set up with my priest are flash heal that heals for 1000, flash heal that heals for 2000, highest rank flash heal, Greater heal that heals for about 4000, Highest rank greater Heal.

Those have really, REALLY heled me in reducing my overheals to a minimum, also you don't waste mana. Another advantage is that if you have a low rank heal set up, you cn spam it for clearcasting.

October 18, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSpudnik

Oh, and of cause, I forgot, one of the greates addons for Priests is Decursive. The best thing about it is that there is a WotLK-ready version out.

October 18, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSpudnik

You sir, are an idiot.
Disregarding meditation and inspiration clearly shows that you have no idea what forces are in the priest's favor and which is not - yes people actually play a class to learn it, not to powerlevel it to 70.
There's some problem making a solid level 70 build for a level 80 talenttree obviously.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxhbzhZfbxcfzqVhVsob is how you're gunna roll, if you plan on doing healing in raids @ 70 with the new revamped talenttree. And this is http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxhbzhZfhxcfzqVhVIst is as a healer @ 80.
1) a stunned or what have you healer is Bad, with a capital B hence unbreakable will over twin.
2) Twin disc, grants +heal to INSTANT heals ie: CoH. Which is heavily nerfed with the increased manacost.
3) 30% of your out of combat mp5 is HUUGE. Wanna keep on healing thruout the whole fight, or just throw 10 greater heals and wand? good man.
5) Desperate prayer is nice, but uses a base cd - so yes, instant but ruins your healingflow (pvp talent) - binding heal is the proper way to roll, if you happen to take dmg 6) Searing light, what are you - high? you are HEALING. 7) Flash heal, is cheap - way cheaper with glyphs, getting one for free equates to nothing, seeing you're a priest and have an insane mp5 ic, surge of light is irrelevant.

Going that far to get your 50p talent at 70 is a waste if you plan on doing anything.

October 19, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMasterOfTheSun

For those who hate on the Lightwell spell and think its a waste, for PUG groups its the best. If you dont know the quality of the tank, throwing down a Lightwell before a fat pull can save much needed mana healing yourself after you Fade. I find this under-rated spell can be the difference between a long walk back and victory. Perfect example is the stairs in ZF. Throw it down before and save the mana for the long run. Hazaa :)

October 19, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSangdrax

ryan- "Lightwell has been buffed, but I still don’t know if it truely has a spot in raids. We’ll see about that."

understandable for not being sure if this is for raids but i seen them use for raids and they can be pretty helpful especially for fights when u need uber tank healz and can't fully concentrate on the raid itself just throw it down and if they need to heal they go to the lightwell click on it and go right back in and its useful in ZA with the rush of going from one boss to the other just throw it down after a boss get your raid to click on it and move on.

and as far as your spec goes man its not bad like i said i don't have a priest character but something that can really help u because it helps me with my alts just go on armory and look for holy priest see how there spec and see if u like it. but as for serendipity i would suggest getting it cuz even if you over heal by 1 hp u get a good portion of the mana back and can be really helpful

October 19, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJosh

Right, MasteroftheSun, calling someone else an idiot is pretty low, certainly considering the advice you then give him. Your suggestions aren't good at all to be honest.

Twin Disc is 5/5 without question. Unbreakable will doesn't even come close to the benefit this gives you.

Second mistake: Healing Focus. With the new pushback rules, you will not need this talent really. On top of the pushback rule, pally aura's are raidwide. So they put up concentration aura and you are set to go. Put those points into Surge of Light and keep your eyes open for the proc. Timing the usage of the procs is our new challenge and you should try to get used to them. This is how you learn to (ab)use the 5 second rule.

Also, you indeed need Meditation otherwise you're mana regen will be abysmal. I tried the Guardian Spirit build, but it just doesn't keep up mana long enough.

You don't need improved Inner Fire yet because it does not give the Spellpower buff yet. That change is coming with Wrath, so don't bother with it.

The build I would suggest is: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhbzhZMxxcfMqihVho

Feel free to put Serendipity points in Improved Holy Concentration. But be careful because faster casting also means oom faster.

If you don't feel the need to be the AoE healer with CoH, try a deep Disc build. The mana regen is unstoppable pretty much and although your healing output is lower, it is more than enough and faster. The Disc build I am trying out right now is:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhbuhxtr0sVckt0xL

This may not be ideal, so other Disc priests should comment on this one and suggest changes. It is my first Disc specc I ever tried, so.

Hope this helps. Good luck healing out there!

October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSinuviel

Where are my Priest racial abilities? They were very important for my twink priests. I have three priests at different levels and now feel like I am loosing more than gaining with the new expansion.

Blizzard, In my humble opinion, I like the classes to have differences and do not want all the healing classes to be equal. I don't want the tanks to all have the same abilities. I want everyone to have a role and to feel needed because they truly are.

October 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercløne of Baelgun

I am leveling a holy priest (level 42) right now and have one comment. I have found Searing Light to be useful because I've been running instances in a 4 person group, and it is sometimes very helpful to be able to toss out some decent dps in overpulls. But in a 5 person group, this might not be as necessary.

October 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterHarper

I actually just stumbled upon this website due to the fact I was bored with WoW, and I'd like to offer some advise. I'm apart of a very old well-known guild, and I'd like to offer some advice for healing. As far as background goes I've done everything PvE oriented to the game. From Midnight to Kiljaedan, from running raids to leading them... its been a enjoyable time and I get the most fun out of helping other members. As far as spec goes, the best thing a priest can do is AoE heal. Think about it, Circle of Healing (CoH), Prayer of Healing (PoH), bouncy Prayer of Mending (PoM), and the not so useful Holy Nova. We have the best utility of healing members

Therefore check this out:

Lvl 70: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhb0hZfxxcf0qihVho
Lvl 80: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhbzhZfxxcf0qihVIot

This spec is the best raid healing spec that lvl 70 PvE Priest can offer. I know a lot of priest may not understand why not go down the whole tree, but Meditation is a must for any talent build until Blizzard makes it not. Plain and simple, if you want to PvE heal you have to put 13 talent points into discipline.

Another thing i'd like to point out. Many Priest fail to understand the new importance of Surge of Light.

i'll explain what it does...

Surge of Light - Rank 2/2
Your spell criticals have a 50% chance to cause your next Smite or Flash Heal spell to be instant cast, cost no mana but be incapable of a critical hit. This effect lasts 10 sec.

Do you get it? Basically an AoE spell has many chances to crit. Circle of healing mind you is the best, if you circle of heal a group, and one of the heals crit, you have a 50% chance to get a free not crit heal. I mean, what more can you ask for?

Anyways, I could preach to you for hours about the Priest trees, I've been playing one for almost 3 years, but if anyone would like help, honestly, feel free to mail me

=)

October 27, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNattao

EDIT: Lvl 80: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVcbzhZfxxcf0qihVIot

No need for reduce threat with new threat generation, use it on Inner Fire buff. Forgot >.<

October 27, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNattao

EDIT: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVcbzhZfxxcf0qihVIot for lvl 80

No need for reduce threat with new threat generation, use it on Inner Fire buff. Forgot >.<

October 27, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNattao

Must agree with Nattao's build for the most part. Been holy since lvl 10 (can't spec anything till you reach lvl 10 :P) and playin for almost 4 years now. These are my suggestions for PVE raid formats.

Improved Inner Fire > Silent Resolve. Shouldn't have threat issues. With Inner Fire adding 120 spell power at lvl 9 in wotlk, that gives an additional 54 spell power, not to mention 1098 more armor on top of the 2440.

Meditation is definitely necessary. Priests without it are up to 30% less efficient, raiding is all about efficiency. Move 1 point from Guardian Spirit and 2 points from Divine Providence to cap Meditation.

Healing Focus is also very important. As Nattao stated, priests are great aoe healers. However, if we need to aoe heal it's probable the group is receiving aoe damage, and losing casting time on any of our heals is terrible. Move 2 points from Holy Specialization to cap Healing Focus. (This is where Nattao and I differ in builds. Holy Specialization, imo, has always been a holy priest's trash talent. Sure it has an advantage, but we don't even think about crits. Heals are constant, crits are a bonus and too rare. Priests should generally choose heals to top off the target, and crits generally end up overhealing. For this reason, many priests only put points in this talent when they need to get further down the tree.)

Desperate Prayer. Best to drop it. Was better as a spell that didn't require a talent point. Very situational, shield + renew works just as well. Most I ever used it in was pvp. We have binding heal now too.

Inspiration. Use the point from Desperate Prayer and 1 more point from Holy Specialization to cap Inspiration. Even if you don't notice a difference in required healing, tanks love the Inspiration.

Searing Light. Remove both points, purely an offensive talent, close to never needed in raid. Put both points into Holy Reach, it will increase the range on both your CoH and your PoH.

Finally, move the 3 remaining points from Divine Providence and cap Serendipity. Again, about the mana efficiency.

Holy priests need constant heals, requiring efficient mana consumption. Holy priests should not rely on crits. If you think in terms of DPS, consider an affliction lock to be the holy priest counterpart. Go for more spellpower and mana efficiency.

When WotLK releases, get Inner Focus from the Discipline tree (if you don't decide to sacrifice a holy talent point for it already). It is situational, but can have huge benefits in longer fights. When Holy Concentration pops, you'll have a bonus heal to cast that doesn't count as a cast against your mp5. Add Inner Focus and that's two bonus heals. With proper stopcasting, that time can be huge. Now that Surge of Light adds a free Flash Heal, it gives it even more of a bonus. Add in some trinkets....

Next you'll want to max Divine Providence and Guardian Spirit. GS can be situational also, but if you need to regen some mana I'm not afraid to pop it on the tank and take a healing break and come back restored. Also, works well when there's an enraged boss and you only have enough time to spam flash heal.

Finally, I prefer Test of Faith over capping Holy Specialization. ToF is situational, yes, but the cup is half full. Best time for a crit is below 50%, since above and you risk the crit being wasted on an overheal. With ToF you get a 6% bonus to your crit chance when it's needed, whereas w/ HS you get a 3% chance. Not to mention if you miss the crit you'll still get an added 6% bonus to your healing, so long as the target is <50% health. Will you crit more with HS? Probably if you keep your tank capped off. Will ToF give you best utilization of your crits? I think so. It's debatable. Besides, best case scenario looks like this... Cast Guardian Spirit on MT(exit Five Second Rule in 5 sec), cast Inner Focus, GS sacrifices itself, returning MT to 50% health, cast Greater Heal (by the time it's finished the MT should be <50%, Greater Heal Crits (w/ 15% base crit there would be a 48% chance to crit), Holy Concentration procs (45% chance to proc based on crit), next two gheals cast 30% faster for the price of one, enter FSR

Could involve much more math, but too much time spent writing (and reading if you didn't tldr it)

lvl 70: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?tal=050320003000000000000000000023205003230015253005331000000000000000000000000000000

lvl 80: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVcbzhZfbxcf0qihVIst

November 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBluestaff

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