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I was definitely an altaholic until I got my first 70. Now I'm in the same boat as you , Alex. I'd like to level another 70 or two but it is just so hard to go back. I think the one recommendation I would make is to do something fairly different from your main.

Since you have NE Rogue I would not do a NE Druid. Leveling feral is the way to go, but I think you'll be frustrated going from a rogue to a kitty (rogue lite). If you don't want to heal or tank, than maybe a caster - try a gnome warlock. Stick with it until level 30 - now that the patch is live and you can get your mount then.

Good luck!

Well Dr Dark, I think your screwed.....way back before ban ville a lot of people would bot there way to the top but Blizz is pretty good at catching that(as they should imo). Personally I have been considering doing the same but I get 10 minutes in and just say screw it and try to get my teenage son to do it for me :), even offered him an hourly wage, my lil farmer. Hopefully someone has some advice on how to keep our eyes in their sockets.

I hear ya. I have two 70s currently, with a third slowly making his way through the 60s, and I can barely stand that. Doing the same quests again solo just isn't fun the third time through, especially if you are not a class that can kill quickly.

Aside from the 60-something toon, I have other alts I'd like to level up. I';d love to do some 70 pvp as a rogue, but am having a rough time even going through the 20s. It's just annoying doing all of the early zones.

That being said, the only real easy way to do it is to run with a friend. Find someone you know who also wants to level a new toon, and run with them. Believe it or not it makes it much better playing with a friend, and it helps you forget that you're grinding another 70 levels.

As a matter of fact, Dr D, why not create a separate series of episodes based solely on your alt and his struggle to the top? Could be fun.

Dr. Dark,

I'm a long time alt-aholic and after several therapy sessions, I've learned to choose alts that are fairly different from my main at the time.

I've played pretty much all classes at some point to 20 or so, but my first lvl 70 was a Blood Elf mage, followed by a Troll warrior. Both were great to lvl (although the Warrior was tough round the lvl 40 mark).

My suggestion to you is if you're really keen on the DPS numbers, try rolling a caster DPS this time. Either a Mage (my personal favorite) or a Warlock.

It brings a new concept of squishyness to the game as you can't take the beats like you can on a rogue and, in the case of the warlock, you get that pet dynamic.

Plus it's fun to be the glass cannon!

I'm just here to re-iterate the 'different style alt from your main' idea. I have 3 lvl 70s (2 druids, 1 shaman) and I find myself leveling warlock for the pet.

I think the best way is just to level them up slowly.

I have 2 70's and the way I got my second was by deciding to level a twink after I got bored of end-game content, First I level'd to 19 and saw there was not enough class-development to be fair and even, and I did some research and decided 39 was the best level to twink at.

I grinded to 39 with a passion and quickness. When I got there, I got bored, very quickly. 1-2 shotting people gets old after awhile.

So I decided to level another 70, and it was considerably faster than leveling my paladin due to my gear(and the fact that rogue is an ACTUAL DPS class), all blues, 1 or 2 purples with the best enchants you can get. .40-60 was a breeze and 60-70 is just fun so it was cake for me.

I'm currently leveling a druid that I've "decided" for now, is going to be a 39 twink healer. I'll probably get bored of that and level it in time. I like you DREAD leveling him I've been stuck in the early 20's for awhile now but I get on him every once in awhile and grind out a couple of quests at a time.

There really is no easy way of leveling an alt, it's just not fun, it's a Pain in the ASS is what it is. Good luck Alex.

-Victory/Exquisite
Frostmane, US

I think all these mixed feelings you're having stem from the fact you have a Night Elf not a Blood Elf ;)

I can't have an alt right now, because I can't imagine not being a rogue. No stealth, that's madness. I will never love another toon like I do my main!

The key with leveling alts is to take them to content that you didn't see the first time around. I leveled my druid to 70 mostly in eastern kingdoms, with a little time in Kalimdor. So, on my new Priest, I am spending much of the time in Kalimdor, exploring the lesser used areas. And that makes it so that it doesn't feel as long and boring. Also, 2x xp is your friend.

Dr D,

Once you hit the unreachable - lvl 70 - starting a new character, I am sure you will agree, is kinda depressing. One main reason is the fact that all that ass-kickery at your disposal at lvl 70 has been removed and has been replaced with armor of grey.... weapons of grey... and that all too sad lvl 1 in the top left of your screen.
After a few days or weeks (hell, HOURS!) of playing your alt you can't help but flick over to your main to share a teary eyed moment with your hard worked baby (ok, sad sad sad i know but you know what i'm talking about!)

Alts do have an advantage of being able to play a different class / profession with many new and strange abilities.

One day I will get my lvl 23 rogue to lvl 70.... but my lvl 70 feral druid is so kick ass right now :)

Hello sir...

I have always found the fun of the game to be in the exploration... going to a new land... encountering new people and new story. Why this place is the way it is or that place is the way it is. i don't think the fun is in leveling speed as much as what you can encounter along the way, and the sense of accomplishment at the end. The romanticism is a bit much, but it helps.

The alt leveling advice i have to share is
- Finding a different character play style. I went from flipping from alliance mage to horde warrior to alliance paly to horde rouge/hunter/druid.
- Questing in a new area from previously. there are still some places where i haven't touched all the quests that are there.
- Using the money you can get on your main to gear, enchant, and profession up your alt.
- I hate going back to places that i just killed a crap load of baddies in and then having to wade back through them. So finding all the quests related to a particular subzones and popping out 3-4 while in the approximate area.
-Not doing quests with craptastically low drop rates.
-Ignoring areas that are not diverse and/or pretty
-Looking at the zone lore

I found that "Long, exceptional, or hidden questlines" page on wowwiki lists a bunch of fun quests that you might not have done before. That give you lore and decent experience along the way. The "Sweet Amber" quest gives great XP.

So yeah, hopefully this helps keeps the eyes intact and keep you away from the oedipal...

Find a friend, level together.
I have a total of 3 toons on my account - one is a bank, one is my main, and the other is only 70 because i had a friend that helped and encouraged me to level through the hard stages.
when one was feeling off the game, the other dragged them through. its the only way.
i will NOT be doing it again tho... lol.

I want progression, geared toons, toons i can be proud of.
not 10 lvl70 toons wearing greens.

I have a suggestion, It will be boring but you will get 70 MUCH faster, there are hundreds and hundreds of leveling guides out there. I just recently hit 70 on my Undead Rogue and had only 8 days played. Its far from anything near those chinese farmers that can get 70 much faster but, I myself is very happy with 8 days to 70.

Dr. D,

First off, awesome job on this site, it's a top notch idea. Currently, I have 3 70s (Mut. Rogue, Teddy tank, and Elem. Shaman), a 64 (BM Hunter), a 62 (Prot Warrior), and a 51 (Enhc Shaman) and a rapidly advancing Holy Pally. I know I might be an altaholic in need of therapy, but compared to the farming for money that was needed on FFXI, alts are a breeze.

My tips? Level up in the BC zones and then go through lower level zones to wipe out quests even quicker.

Another was spending a few hours every day just doing instances. Loot isn't important, but what is is trying to teach what you know as a 70 to those people you come across that do not have those 70 mains to provide money, or more importantly experience w/o being arrogant.

Yes, I do have the rogue and the elemental in purples, and yes, it can be a very difficult thing to balance alts with mains, but what I and cherish is that the alts give you an outlet for those times when heroics, raids, and dailys just take the fun out of WoW.

Take the alts through new crafting professions that you have never tried (one reason why my hunter is doing tailoring right now!) can also help break the monotony.

Finally, as another poster suggested, switch away from the whole idea of leveling the same type of character. A friend of mine leveled up 4 hunters, all same spec, same profs; that's his gig. I leveled in this order- Hunter (pre-BC, go figure), Rogue, Shaman, Druid, Warrior, Shaman, Pally. What leveling in different roles (caster, melee, tank, and now healer) has taught me has influenced my ability to synergize with other classes and help keep a tank alive and relieve healers. Alts don't just benefit from your experience as a 70, the 70 you play can and will benefit from you playing a different style class in an alt.

Well, I've met way to many people (mostly in my guild) with an Alt. I suppose people get bored with the one Character, But in my case i think the one Character is just fine. Being a warlock, i really love my Casting type DPS. But with a Feral druid i didn't like it.. I think its really what your like.. If you want heaps of Characters. Then make em. But if not, Stick to your trusty first Character.

The trick is that *you* don't do the leveling.

You find a friend or two, who are in the same boat (you are a warrior wanting to be dps...she is a mage that wants to heal).

You put your level 70s on ice (excuse the pun), and you do run throughs. One level 70 runs the instance on group loot. The alt (or two) just following collecting loot.

You are all on vent (or in the same room) and you have lots of fun, plus you get lots of blue/green drops.

You never learn to play your character until lvl 40-50, but honestly...who ever really does learn to play their character until then?

I just level alts when I'm feeling like doing something different. It doesn't have to be a "push to 70" thing unless you just want to. Plus I like to remember the main fact that this is a game... so have fun, whatever you are doing.

Ahaha, and I found my paladin blog. =P

something ive found fun in leveling my alts is get it to mabye 15 and just instance the entire way up. its alot more fun than doing quests you've already done and you may get into some dungeons you havent done before (i never did scholo). also you make many friends this way and learn your class alot faster. last is the only downside is that you may not be able to find a group sometimes and it can get very slow

Ya i can understand the not wanting to lvl through all the zones again but i do agree with the lvling with a friend. I played back in the beta days and then once wow dropped i got a priest to 60 got bored and sold my account. Then when BC dropped i started up again and got a hunter to 70 no problem got through most of the early endgame content and decided to try the new classes and had a friend start with me, just something about having your friend with you makes the long drag to 70 alot more enjoyable but also the dynamics of different classes helps if you just go with the flow. Hope this helps.

im sorry but can any1 somehow explain to me tier like wtf is it? im a lvl 18 druid but damn idk what it is?
thanks

Alt leveling is definitely a pain, but one thing that got me through was playing a class that was an absolute blast for me. I only made it to level 15 with a shaman, but the playstyle of mages was so fun for me, I leveled one to 70. I started a pallied and really enjoyed that as well, and I plan on leveling him some day. As of now though, I'm still content with my hunter and mage.

I read the comment after yours Dr. Dark, saying to not level a druid because you would have to make it feral because it is the best to level as, but then you would just be trying out new classes and making more alts that you're never going to level. IMO just stick with your druid and roll balance, I leveled my druid 1-60 as balance, and respecced balance again for 60-70, I didn't have a problem at all with it, just have lots of water on you :P . But if you are really tired of your druid, and you MUST make a new alt, here are some things, most posted above, that will help you enjoy your new alt.

--Make it different from your Rogue. If you are going to go through the hell of grinding to 70, you want to enjoy your alt as much as possible. Don't make an enhancement shaman, or warrior. You don't want to make another melee class, I'd say a caster, like a mage or warlock, or a hunter. I personally made a hunter because its full ranged, and you get a pet, which I thought made it a lot funner. Also, instead of downgrading armor like a caster class, you get mail at level 40, which is also a nice mixup. After my 70 druid, I wanted to make an alt, so I decided to go with hunter, because the pet really changed things, and I leveled all the way to 70 no problem.

--If you have them....Friends! Play with friends as often as possible. Whether they are running you through instances or doing quests with you. It makes the experience a lot more enjoyable.

--New Zones! Try to play in as many different zones as possible. Doing different quests, in different zones, killing different mobs gives WoW more variety. But when you have to pick between zones you know, pick zones that you are more familiar with, so you know some of the quests and the leveling goes faster.

--Moneyz! Leveling an alt with a main makes it awesome because with daily quests you have an unlimited amount of money. Sometimes when i'm bored with my alt I just buy an upgraded set of gear from the AH, so I'm killing things faster and it makes leveling a little funner. Also, you can fund new professions. Now you don't need gathering quests because you can do dailys, so you have the option of not having a gathering profession, and getting two like engineering and enchanting, or whatever sounds good to you. IMO Engineering makes leveling funner because you can make useful items like bombs. and fun items like explosive sheep, and trinkets that can turn people into chickens :)

--Instancez. Do instances whenever you can, nice break from questing, as well as gear, and actually interacting with other people for a change, if you were questing by yourself.

--Sidez. As posted above, flipping from alliance to horde can really make things funner. I made a char on my friends account, 34 human warlock, but when I got my own account, I wanted to mix it up a bit, so I made my tauren druid, and changing starting zones, all new cities and races, entirely different quests (and some different zones) really made leveling funner. But if you want to stay on alliance with your friends, a problem that I usually encounter, pick maybe a draenei, or however the hell you spell those blue aliens, because the burning crusades quests and questlines are funner than the azeroth ones imo, and this slightly newer race with its new starting zone might just be the little push you're looking for.

--Stick to your alt!!!! There were many times where I just wanted to stop leveling my hunter. I really wanted to hit 70 but whether it was just too much leveling, or the specific zone, I just wanted to drop my alt and pewpew on my druid. BUT sometimes you need to take breaks. Non-stop grinding will make you sick of your alt. If you aren't having as much fun with your alt as you usually do, just play you main for a day or two, then go back to your alt. Do this also when you get tired of a particular zone. For instance, when my hunter got to Feralas, I really did not want to play him. For some really, I really hate feralas. I just took a little break from him, got motivated to just blow feralas away so I can level up elsewhere, then got back to my hunter, and did exactly that. Just blew right through it, then went on to funner zones.

This was a lot of damn typing so I really don't want to go back and see if I made errors / forgot a few things, but I hope a few of these things that I mentioned helped you out with your alting. And great vids btw, I don't need help with these instances at all because I'm a long time 70 but you guys are funny so its ok :D . and I wouldn't mind seeing some PvP mixed up in there as well, whether it be outdoor 5-manning a city or just half-a-premade doing WSG. But yeah, GL with leveling your alt and I hope this helped you. :D

So, I've got a lvl 70 mage and a lvl 70 rogue. Always enjoyed lvling characters that's why I started lvling alts when my mage was lvl 30ish. That's when my rogue started. Since I wanted my mage to be the higher lvl because it was my first character I had to lvl it up again. So I did to 52 and lvl my rogue again until lvl 38. Then made my mage lvl 60 and 2 months later TBC was released. I got to 70 on my mage and then I lvled my rogue to 70. Didn't get boring then.
After that I wanted another character to lvl up. So I started a druid, first for fun. But after 20 lvls I really enjoyed it. Was kinda slow, but got kinda bored. All I did was melee, heal, melee, heal etc.
I decided to go Balance at lvl 40 and BANG, my druid got lvl 60 really fast. Time to go to Outlands. Got to lvl 66 in a real short time. Rolled to being a healer, which was pretty fantastic since I thought I'd do just instances. Now it seems that instances aren't really good xp grinding things, so went Moonkin again.
Still I enjoy lvling. In the meantime I got a lvl 36 hunter, 22 warrior, and some more. Maybe it's just the changes I make that helps me like lvling still. I guess that's what you should do too!
And let's not forget, every 10 lvls (19, 29, 39 etc.) I went to the BG's just to try out some new movements on my chars. Try it, maybe you'll enjoy it!

I have 5 level 70 characters and enjoyed them all. I just did a different thing each time... for example level another faction, try different areas you haven't done before, try to level with a partner all the time instead of alone (I did this on one character and that was the best experience ever). Also each class will get more and more unique the more you level up, so after a while it will really become an entirely different game, especially if you take characters in different 'areas' of the game (with this I mean tanking, healing and DPSing).

I agree with some of you guys suggestions. I started out with a hunter and got to about 66 when BC came out. Then I decided to try out other classes. Lvled each until about lvl 10. Got hooked on my rogue. When BC came out, it helped with the lower required XP for each lvl. I always made sure he was in an inn, to get that double XP, especially when I may not have been playing him for awhile. Got him up to 70 pretty quick, then got my Pally up to 70 also.

My recommendation is to install the addon Questhelper, especially now since the new update. The new Questhelper is awesome!!! Instead of having to go through your quest log and find what quests you have to do, it automatically pops up all quests in the immediate area on your screen, and as you complete the requirements it removes them, but only the name of the quest stays on the screen. It rotates them based on the one you're working on. Oh, and it lists more than 5 quests on your screen. It gives you the location of where you need to go to complete the quests, and gives you the recommended routes to quickly complete quests. Of course you don't have to follow the routes, but knowing where to find the location of what you need to do to complete the quest helps make it faster than trying to figure out or remember where to go.

If you're just starting the new class, no matter what race, get it up to at least lvl 5, then head to the BC areas (Draenei/Blood Elf). The reason is that you can get to lvl 20-22 within a day or two depending on how long play. The quests are close by and the quest rewards alone give you pretty good gear, you don't even have to worry about buying anything until maybe a couple of lvls after you leave the area.

Another suggestion I have is to do the quests that don't make you travel to complete, like the one in Redridge Mountains that have you traveling to 4 different places to get 4 different drinks (Waste of time!!!). I think grinding quests is faster than doing instances. I wouldn't worry about the gear in there. If you've already got a main, get your money from there to purchase upgraded gear.

Professions - I would choose the gathering ones up to at least lvl 40 or 50, then switch to the main professions you want (You can try to make money from the mats or send them to your ALT BANK (designated toon for selling stuff on AH or storing mats in the bank - I bought all the slots and large bags, including mining, enchanting, etc. for more space). My rogue made alot of money just from skinning and mining. I didn't even have to borrow money from my main.

Have a variety of professions for each of your characters. You're really not going to need specific professions for a specific class. To drive your costs down and possibly make more money, have all of the different professions so that you make gems, jewelry, gear, etc. Unfortunately, you would only be able to enchant gear that your other toons haven't already equipped. But, that should be minimal.

Break up the quest grinding with an instance and/or BG when you want change. But don't try stay in instances/BGs while you're trying to lvl, because it's going to slow you down. Do different areas, than you're used to. I skipped some areas that I did with my main that I thought were a waste of time. Some are equivalent to each other. What I did was, once I completed most of the quests in one area and I was high enough lvl to go to a higher lvl area, then I moved on to the next area.

Once you get to lvl 58 go to Outland. It may be a little rough at first, but if necessary you can get someone to work on quests together. Same thing here, follow the above recommendations for fast lvling. I only went to the instances when I completed most of the quests in the area, and I had pretty much all the needed quests for the instance. I skipped some of the areas in Outland when I lvled my Pally like Nagrand and Blades Edge Mountains. The reason I did this was so that I could worry about working on my rep with Honor Hold, Cenarion Expedition, Lower City, and Keeper's of Time (Only the Cavern of Time instances) to get to Honored by the time I reached 70, because their Quartermasters had some decent gear to help with some of the harder instances without having to buy any if you didn't get any good drops in instances or from quests.

The main thing is to get your toon up to lvl 70. I think all of the classes are viable. It gives you change when you want to do different types of fighting.

Good Luck!!