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Guild Chat: Interview with Kyan of The Spreading Taint

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The Spreading Taint, often referred to as Taint for short, is a well-known GLBT-friendly (gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender) guild on the Proudmoore server.  They have been featured in many publications, both WoW and GLBT related, for their success is many areas. I recently had the privilege of speaking to the guild leader, Kyan, about life in <Taint>.

Thanks for talking to us about The Spreading Taint, known more commonly as Taint. Can you introduce yourselves and give us a brief introduction to Taint?

I'm Kyan (real name - Jason). I am the guild leader of the Taint family of guilds. Our guild was established on Proudmoore the day that World of Warcraft launched. Taint started as a very small group of friends from the west coast who came together to create an environment to give gay gamers a harassment-free gaming environment and a place that people could come together for social networking. Since then, we have grown from a tiny group of friends to a guild of nearly 3,000 characters, and are currently the second largest guild in World of Warcraft.

The Spreading Taint is made up of several guilds. Can you explain the purpose of each of these guilds and why the spreading taint does not use one guild?

There are a few reasons why we have split up the guild. First, there is a problem with the guild interface in the game. Once a guild reaches 500 players, newly added players will no longer show up on the guild tab on the social pane. Therefore, you are not able to easily promote, demote, set notes, etc., for any of those new players.

Once guild banks were added to the game, we decided to work toward dividing the guilds up according to player level. Each guild bank is designed to provide gear, recipes, crafting materials, and quest items that are appropriate to that level of the game. As we expanded, we added two raiding guilds and a PvP guild. They are able to maintain their own guild banks to store the items needed for their day to day activities.

How close are each of the guilds? Are the guilds even considered significantly distinct?

We are all one big happy family. All of the guilds are connected in one guild chat via a chat mod that we use, so when you are chatting with other players in game, you could be talking to someone in any of the nine guilds that we currently have.

Proudmoore has a reputation for being friendly to GLBT players. Do you feel that Taint has significantly improved Proudmoore's reputation and attracted new GLBT players?

I do believe we have. We have many people that transfer to Proudmoore from other servers who hear about how friendly the environment is on this server. Many of the new members we get are transfers from other servers who have heard about us or found our guild through web searches. We also get many first time WoW players that join who were told about our guild by our members. While I would like to think that Taint has played a major role in making Proudmoore a friendly environment to GLBT gamers, I also need to give a nod to all of the other GLBT guilds, both horde and alliance, who make this server a wonderful place to play.

How is playing on Proudmoore different from playing on other servers? Do you hear less homophobic comments like "that was gay" after a wipe?

I do believe that Proudmoore is more accepting of GLBT players than other servers. I believe that this is a result of our visibility. Just about any time that a pick-up-group gets together for a raid or instance, you are likely to find a Taint member somewhere in the mix. Other players soon realize that we are gamers, just like them, and can play as well, or often better than alot of the other players out there.

Why do players choose to join Taint? What benefits are there to being a member of an GLBT friendly guild?

To many people, Taint is like a second family. There are always people on, 24x7. The nature of the guild, being what it is, provides an atmosphere where people can chat socially, ask for personal advice, and just feel at home.

<Taint Invaders> recently got the server first clear of Ulduar 10 and many other server and horde first boss kills in Ulduar 10 and 25 man. Can you talk a little bit about Taint Invaders? To what level are members of <Taint Invaders> independent of Taint and to what level are they still members of Taint?

<Taint Invaders> is our progression-focused raiding guild. We decided to set up a separate guild for the raiding teams to provide their own guild bank space and customized raid ranks. Though we have a different tag above our heads, we are definitely fully integrated with the other Taint guilds. We share the same guild chat, website forums, and run instances and raids with each other.

<Taint Invaders> recently got a complaint from a player stating the guild name was offensive and a GM required a name change. You were able to retain the name after a petition. Can you comment on what kinds of harassment Taint receives from players and what Blizzard's relationship with Taint and other GLBT friendly guilds has been like?

This is not the first time that we have been confronted with a guild name change. While we generally do not have a problem on Proudmoore, we do occasionally have people that for whatever reason, decide to try and target us with a report of an offensive guild name, and many times, the GM handling their ticket initially sides with them, based on the way they worded their complaint. While this has been frustrating for our guild, we have often managed to get this decision reversed.

In this most recent incident, we actually had a very quick and helpful response from Blizzard, and were able to get the name restored, thus, saving our progression rankings on websites that track raid progress and achievements. As far as Blizzard's position on GLBT guilds, I feel that they have taken a neutral position now, which is just fine by me. There was an incident early on with a GLBT guild that was disbanded due to the nature of their membership, and the backlash that Blizzard got was a wake-up call for them. Treating us, and any other GLBT guild out there, with equal respect and consideration as other guilds, is all that we ask, and they have delivered on that.

Proudmoore is a PvE server. Can you tell us about <War Taint> (my guild!) and how it came about?

<War Taint> is our 9th, and most recent guild. We have quite a few members who enjoy the PvP aspect of the game, and spend a great deal of their time participating in battlegrounds, arena, or world PvP. Following the successful introduction of our two PvE raid guilds, some of the officers and members started seeing the potential benefits of having a more organized structure to the PvP side of the game. Establishing this guild allows us to more easily post in-game calendar invites to upcoming events for those who are interested, as well as the ability to maintain a separate guild bank dedicated to PvP materials. We have seen many dead alliance leaders and war bears as a result!

Do you feel that Taint attracts more casual players? Is there a population of hardcore players in Taint?

The majority of our nearly 3,000 toons are casual. Most people log on to quest, do dailies, PvP, hang out in guild chat, or do whatever it is that they enjoy doing. Our hardcore raiding members, while extremely successful, actually make up a small percentage of the guild as a whole.

What are the demographics of Taint like? Males, females, GLBT, etc?

I do not have exact numbers, but I'd guess that about 90% are male, and about 90% are GLBT.

Is there an age restriction for guild membership and why?

Yes, we have a strict 18+ rule. This is in place because we generally do not monitor or censor guild chat, and therefore, it can get a bit racy at times. As such, it is not an appropriate environment for minors.

Can you tell us about Taint RL meetups?

We have real-life meet-ups around the country all the time. Most often, they are local meet-ups organized by the members themselves in the major cities, usually held at a bar or nightclub for an evening. Once a year, we put together an annual Taint get-together, where we invite anyone who is willing and able to make the trip to join us. Last year, we rented a famous house in Las Vegas for the weekend. This year, we will be invading New Orleans during Southern Decadence.

What is Taint's guild chat like? Is it WoW-oriented or more GLBT-culture oriented?

Taint guild chat is "like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna to get." It can go from talking about class/spec theory crafting to someone talking about what they did with someone they met at the club last night.

Where can players learn more about joining Taint?

Anyone interested in Taint can visit our website at http://taint.rtgc.org to find out more information.

Thanks for your time!

No problem!

Reader Comments (21)

FIRST and grats to that guy! to dedicate the time to creating a guild like that is very impressive

May 29, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterangesh

Oh, you're first? Well if you didn't say so I would think you were last! So thanks!

May 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterVag

That is impressive. 3,000+ members? That's nice. I congratulate you guys on getting so many people together. I wish you luck in your future endeavors within and without the World of Warcraft.

May 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterXian

Cool. I'm surprised any single parent guild can reach 3,000+ combined members, let alone one of a community that is looked down on. More power to you Proudmoore server! Go Kyan!!

May 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHerofTime

I take it they're second to AIE or whatever the guild The Instance have?

Anyway, interesting read. I feel slow as to why the word "Taint" would be considered offensive.
Am I missing something here or was the person reporting just retarded? Cause, how could you possibly make that sound bad. :S

May 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSean

hey sean.... this whole post is about tolerance in gaming, and respecting people's creeds and ideals...

you could have left the R-tard out just for tolerance sake lol

May 29, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermahabone

I think Wikipedia can clear things up for you.

May 29, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterHeartbourne

Wow, I never knew a guild like this existed. But big props to you guys for lasting as long, and sticking together through all the harassment, etc.

Most recently, I myself have gained a lot of gay / lesbian / bi friends (both IRL and In-game), and I have to say the majority of them are some of the far more friendly people I know compared to my straight friends.

I hope ye continue to stick together until the end of WoW! :)

May 30, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterAshecroft

Taint - that place between your pole and poop hole

only reason i can see taint being offensive

May 30, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermahabone

Good to see that you guys are going strong! I've had many gay/bi friends on WoW, although most of them seemed to disappear after a few months. Anyway, you guys keep on rocking and keeping it real. Don't let the breeders get you down. ;-)

lol why the hell would u wanna be known as taint

May 30, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterZeb

I'm interested in the add-on they use for chat integration between the guilds. I've been pitching a multi-guild format to my casual guild for ages... I think it would solve a LOT of the raiding problems casual guilds have. Anyone know what it's called?

May 30, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterIiene of Kul Tiras

I'm glad to hear this story :) Keep it up.

"I think Wikipedia can clear things up for you."

That was good Heartbourne ^^.

May 31, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBrokenwing

How do u merge guild chat with another guild?

June 1, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRaknor

no one cares

June 1, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermoophobia

The amount of members, guilds, communication and organization has truly astonished me. I applaud you for operating such huge community.

@NIck,
Please refer to your grade/high school English teachers for immediate lessons on sentence run-ons, fragments and punctuation.

June 1, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterShala

i always wondered why my server had so many guilds with the word taint in them now i know.

June 1, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJonbi

For reference:

Possibly the largest guild in WoW: http://eu.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Nihilum+Fanclub&p=1

Possibly the 2nd largest: http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&n=alea+iacta+est&p=1

It's hard to say what the 3rd largest guild in WoW is, since guilds never seem to claim "we're #3!", but it may be http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Goon+Squad&p=1

June 1, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRandydeluxe

@Shala

I commend you for your willingness to scour the internet to criticise the sentence structure and grammar of people speaking English as a second language. Rock on brave internet warrior.

June 22, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterFlorrie

sex vrè

October 15, 2009 | Unregistered Commentermoris

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