Project Lore

wow, first :)

anyway, yeah i too was WAY behind in TBC (only got started on Kara and a little grull's and ZA) in WotLK however, i wasnt too far behind in the beginning, gearing up nicely, but then i hit the raid wall.
my guild is too little and too casual to get any raids going, although i keep struggling to change that, so at the moment of writing i have just killed KT around 2 weeks ago, have yet to se any UD or even EoE kills, and havent even participated in a Sarth+ any drakes attempt yet :(

I completely agree with you. I didn't play before BC and the only thing raiding wise that I did was dps kara with full greens. Now, I've cleared 25 ulduar twice and have 2 pieces of t8.5 (algalon still up, obviously).

I feel the same way. It was a smart move for Blizz. I came in just 6-8 months before WoTLK came out, fresh start. I still feel today that I missed out on alot of good things in TBC.

For my server woltk was what had to happen to open the pug scene back up, which is very strong and one of the reason I was recruited into my current guild. Honestly I've been so concentrated on gearing both my dps and tank set that I don't really care what drops unless it has dodge,parry, defense, or crit. I hit my hit cap (without the dual wielding dk talents) long ago and am sitting at 12.28% hit so I really don't care about looking at hardmode loot or heroic loot unless it has some crit or higher stam and defensive stats for me.

"By Laeltis on Friday, May 8th, 2009 at 2:14 pm

I feel the same way. It was a smart move for Blizz. I came in just 6-8 months before WoTLK came out, fresh start. I still feel today that I missed out on alot of good things in TBC."

I agree with what Laeltis said here, except I came in only about two months before WotLK and missed out on most content since I had JUST upgraded to TBC.

Well I prefer the questing in WoTLK, I had just hit 70 when it hit the shops, so didnt have time for any end game stuff. Which fitted in nicely, as i could grind to level 80. And now i am level 80 raids? hmm odd one, my guild do naxx once a week, or once every 2 weeks, i tend to join them for that, other than that i normally do OS with PUGS and so far have had 3 pieces of t7 gear drop for me, the rest i have bought with emblems of valor, only the chest to go now, and i am fully epic-d out. Apart from the ranged weapon. I haven't even stepped into EoE yet. OS,VOA and Naxx seem to be the only raids i do, on my server not alot of peeps want to do EoE. :S But yeah overall i think WoTLK is better for pacing you through the game,

Next Step: 2 more emblems of valor.
then Ulduar, and then hopefully the new 5 man content in next patch or bg in next patch, get into that. As a casual player, i take my game at my own pace , and there is always something to do in WoW . Always :D

i was 65 when woltk came out so i was just hurrying along and missed alot of things in tbc. Now the proud owner of an 80 i find going back in some tbc things is alot of fun. I guess what im saying is its never too late to go back

It's great that we don't have to spend hours in front of the computer just farming rep just to go to 1 heroic instance.

I started playing WoW when the patch of Zul Aman was new, and at the time I reach lvl 70 the WotLK was coming out.

I think it used to be good, til 3.1. Ever since 3.1 came out, there have been more gear checks and dps checks for everything. now sure, you need that stuff for Naxx, OS, and especially Ulduar; but I'm sick of seeing it for Heroics. It's getting downright annoying and just sad when people are losing their thrill of the game because people won't allow them to gear up in the first place.

Other than that, I think I'm still into WoW more than I was in TBC, but as of 3.1, not as much.

I started playing at the end of Jan., 08 and I still haven't done a full run of BRS or Dire Maul... my first venture into Onyxia's Lair was a 5-man L80... still haven't done a full Kara run. or got the key...

TBC & LK Instances have hardly had a look in...

The list goes on...

I get the feeling that - given when I started playing WoW - I am in a minority of wanting to actually DO the older content, before I get to the likes of Naxx. (new) & Ulduar; please tell me I'm wrong...

OK; lie if you have to... but am I...?

Well i must say that i prefer or TBC content, i think the instances felt harder and liked the rep u got from doing them.

I have never been a raider just playing instances and quest but must say that i like questing better in TBC too.
Some how Northrend seems to big for me gets boring.

But the design of Northrend is much better then TBC

Prebc was the best and epic time ever on wow. I still dream that it will come back. But when wotlk was released i was so disapointed that its even more easier to get epics than in the TBC.
Please blizzard bring the epic time back!!!!!

Dear Project Lore,

Please fix your forums -cause they are broken.

Love,

Krowtz

Started 1 day after vanilla wow release, miss it so much :( I acctually think Expansions makes the game worse :S

I'm starting to get bored. Only 3 or so guilds Horde side are doing Ulduar on my server and I can't get into their runs.....cause they are guild runs :P

Hopefully my guild will get going and figure out a day we can start knocking it out........

there is nothing hard in this game anymore..it`s just to easy..i totaly disagree with you..there is nothing challenging

i am in the same boat as you guys i started plying a few weeks before TBC when TBC came out i still havent even picked a class to be i tried many even tried a few horde then finnaly sattled on a hunter i my first 70 about a year in to TBC and a bunch of failures of a charaters i never got to injo the molten core AQ or onixia bieng completly new to 70 and rading i was clueless of what to do i have managed to get all blues beat 2 bosses in kara beat magisters terrace beat ramparts on Herioc oh ya and raise my rap with a bunch of useless bastards the need for keys to do heriocs held me back from heriocs from gear and from raids i have allso do lots of pvp on my hunter half of my armor on my hunter is pvp gear i got a fresh start when WOTLK went on the air i got the expenshion the day it came out instead of a year later i hit the DKs hard i completly droped my hunter a month into the game i had an 80 instead a year into it and 2 months into the game i was ready for raiding with all herioc gear even some heriosm gear but the raiding sttomped me first came the fiding a group for a raid my current was useless so i had to leave look for a raiding guild and DKs are not wanted on my server in guild let alone raids i did manage to do some raiding i beat reg an herioc VOA reg and herioc aracchnid guarter and military quarter i have beat OS reg 3 times from all that fuss i got all superior gear 1 epic piece allmost 6 months into teh game i stand superior geared with one epic honnored or higher with with races of NR thier are just a few friendlys and now i have a guild that once in a while raids i mean they mosly fail bu i am way etter of now taen i was in TBC so ya i like WOTLK better i eespect to be completly read yfor teh next expenshion and joi nthe elites of the hard core raiders by the end of this expenshion i may 2 ready charaters i been hittin my mage hard lately i am 1 level away from 80 and summer coming soon the skys the limit and i hope to narrow my possiblitys down over teh summer that is whn i got my hunter

maybe not for you but i am swamped with work

In my case, the loot is the pwnage is the loot is the pwnage is the loot is the pwnage.....

Basically the more mobs I kill, the better loot I get :D no matter how long it take or what expansion I'm in, I'll get em sooner or later, either as a group run or a solo blitzkrieg >D

I started playing just after TBC came out and I only hit 70 a matter of weeks before 3.0, so endgame is kinda new to me. I joined a guild at 80 and we're halfway into our second Naxx 10 run together after a few months of recruiting the right people and it's going great.

If you can find a group of like-minded players at a similar stage in the game to you, then Wrath end-game (whatever that means to you - heroics, raiding, battlegrounds, arena) is more accessible than WoW has ever been before.

Despite the feelings of a small percentage of hardcores who lost the ability to measure their e-peens effectively, this is most definitely a good thing.

Me nad my friends do all the old stuff. I started playing during TBC but i never had got to heroics stage by the time Wrath came out but then i started doing wrath and we started feeling like we had missed out half of the game.

Now we run old instances and raid stuff at the weekends and most of the vanilla wow stuff is better than the wrath stuff. We just cleared Zul Gurub and had a great time doing it and we did LBRS and UBRS last week. The instances then are so much more dense and harder than in Wrath. All wrath is is corridor with aoe then boss. I just wish blizzard would put a heroic mode on the old stuff cos it's a shame that it's being missed out.

tell me how is it better how is teh old crap better you say you want chlanges what kind chlanges can old crap give u fase the only reason you like old instances better is becasue you can beat am they are easier the only reason your doing all of this old stuff cause you cant beat the new stuff appartly you prefer to spend half hour finding yur way around the instannce instead half an hour trying to kill the boss do i really need go over why the stupid idea of puting in heriocs for old instances whould be stupid

whats the point of showing those numbers representing your level if does not mean anything today i had an epiphany of my own while doing HOL a ret paly with many of his 70 epics was able to out dps me a 79 frost mage with mosly blues sure allitle out dated a combination from DB quest rewards gun'drak rewards and IC quest rewards aand UP quest reward yat a 79 ret pally pally with mosly 70 epics was able to out dps perhaps scill at playing your spec was a factor i turned frsot just yesturday o i am still rusty but it is still wierd a level 79 with most of his 70 epics could aout dps a 79 mage with NR blues so when you say hat epics that you had worked on for "months" can be easily replacete by beginer NR makes me wonder hwo you came to aht conclusion or do you even know waht good gear is

"Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in!"

@Cocopuff:
My inability to beat all of the raiding content has nothing to do with my skill as a player. For the most part its entirely due to my inability to put descent amount of time into raiding. Secondly, I refuse to PUG, which is another reason I haven't killed Malygos or gone to Ulduar, as my guild is largely casual.

As for my idea of heroic old world stuff, I enjoy the design of those dungeons immensely. It is correct that the boss fights are dated in comparison to the new stuff, but the scope of the instances and the lore that each of them possesses is why I am so drawn to them. My main knock for the new stuff is the 2-3 pulls then boss, done in 20 minute design for mainly of them. If you look at it from an RPing perspective, what high ranking, high value target (ie the bosses) would only have a few guards in front of them? None.

Your second comment leads me to believe that you misunderstood the post. I am essentially am saying what (I think) you are describing, that TBC's ending gear stayed relevant in Northrend for a long, long time.