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Your Dark Place In The World

Murmur, the final boss in the Shadow LabyrinthNot too long ago I wrote about my experiences in Mount Hyjal and gave everyone the opportunity to share our favorite places to play. I really enjoyed reading through your comments, and you definitely brought back some good memories of leveling in Duskwood and my first steps into Nagrand.

Today I want to flip that. I will tell you right now there is an instance I flat out REFUSE to step foot in. Ask anyone in my guild, you can't pay me to go in there. The instance I'm talking about is Slabs (or The Shadow Labyrinth, if you prefer).

There are several reasons I hate this place, but you can pretty much chalk it up to two really bad experiences. For quite a while I skated along running it every so often, no major issues to speak of. Then I had the run that will live in infamy.

I was just killing some time one random afternoon, so I gathered up a group of friends (including DrDark, who now loves Slabs about as much as I do) and decided to knock out a quick instance run. Things started okay, then it happened. We wiped no less that 15 times on Grandmaster Vorpil. Chalk it up to inexperience, flawed strat, or whatever. The point is it was utterly painful! Four hours later we finally made our way to Murmur.  Another 8-10 wipes and we just called it. This group was fairly skilled, and stubborn as all hell, but we finally just had to cut our losses and move on with our lives. You can finish Kara in less time!

I was at a bit of a loss for why the run was so bad, but It was at that moment I swore off Slabs, I felt like I didn't really need to put myself through that again...

Alas, probably 4 months later I was starting to get pretty well geared and was working on my TK attunement quests. Guess where it sends me? Heroic Slabs. Oh Joy.

I thought about this for a while, Slabs couldn't be near as bad as I remember right? What the hell, lets do this thing! So we did. I was a much better player, and put together a pretty impressive group.

So in we go, thinks were going smooth until Blackheart the Inciter. Then all hell breaks loose. 6-7 wipes on Blackheart, at least 10 on Vorpil, and 5 on Murmur. I don't know if we were having an off day, but it was another 4 hour run from hell. It was that point I swore to myself, and meant it, no more Slabs, NEVER AGAIN.

This time I've stuck to it, and I never see myself going back. In fact it's become the big joke in the guild whenever Slabs pops up as the heroic daily. "Bast will tank! He loves Slabs!" Har har, my response has become canned "never again."

I'm hoping I'm not the only one who has this strong of feelings against an instance. There is no other instance in the game I mind running, and I rarely wipe in heroics at all, but something about Slabs just sends chills down my spine. Do you guys have any hellish experiences to share, or any instances that you flat refuse to run? I completely understand if you do, trust me.

Reader Comments (57)

Nothing to say except...first. :P

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBemiss

Poor Bast. I don't have a dark place as I tend to just be really, really good at wow.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJuggynaut

slabs is a joke...blackheart is quite annoying (including his room) but I never really have had issues in there beyond that point. It was actually the first instance I cleared when turning 70.

However, I do hate slabs for the mere fact that I ran it so many times. As the only level 70 tank in the guild, I ran it all the time to get people their kara keys. For some reason, I ran slabs more than every other instance required for the key.

gnomer on the other hand is just one instance i always seem to skip as i'm leveling.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterbrett

@Juggy

I understand, before this week I thought I was pretty good myself. Turns out I suck... at least that's what I hear ;)

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBastosa

I USED to feel that way about SLABS, but now, with the right group.. (never EVER take a group that doesnt know what they are doing. there are people i trust in ZA but would never take to SLABS with me, PARTICULARLY not heroic)

I remember 3 manning Mumur on Heroic. (T4 geared group, pretty much a must, but thats not that high, imo)

Pally tank, Mage, Holy Priest - the other 2 dps failed, but these three left standing were the ones i trusted.
When u see the flashing floor, run, when it stops, haul ass back in - its not really that hard! im in Australia, i run 600+latency - and there are people in the US that dare to try and say that their 200latency is too high to respond quick enough.....

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSaemundr

@brett Gnomer is definately sucha sucky instance. Not too much hastle with Slabs but Gnomer! zzzzzzzzzzzz

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKrafla

I have a horrid place but i cant prevent myself from running it. Heroic magister's terrace. I am a fairly good geared tank. Mostly T4 with sun well badge gear. I had run this instance for three months straight after the patch came out with it (every day), just waiting fro the commendation of kael'thas to drop. Then took a month break from it because i was so frustrated. I then started it up again and after another two months of never seeing it i decided its not worth my time. Also dont think that it was a breeze running it every day. Some days it me 2 hrs to find a group and then if its a good grp we ran it in 45 min or others we couldnt finish the third boss because it is so easy to get heroic keyed to that place that so many friggin noobs pile into the queve. I have had rusn that were 5 hrs long. With no wips on any boss but the third. I have had a run that i got to the third boss and i replaced the dps 4 times before we downed her. the only ppl left from that original group were the healer and i.
So believe me when i say i feel your pain. I had a similar experience with slabs trying to get blackheart's tank trinket to drop but then i finally got something better from a different place.

Everyone in my guild knows the one and only instance I will never do: Gnomer. I wanted the stupid hat from the final boss, with the supposed 10 percent drop rate. I ended up running Gnomer a total of 59 times. I had 30 two-handed axes.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGilnid

i have a place i will never set foot in again in wow and that place is heroic MgT

ran that place once a day for over a month to get a trinket from the 3rd boss (comendation of Kaelthas) and wiped for hours and hours

i grew to despise the place for its ridiculous camera angle requirments and the 3rd boss itself witch as a pall tank is almost unmanagale without the right team.

once i got my trinket i swore down that i would bever set foot in the place again

however a good freind in guild needed a tank the next day so i went and the trinket droped again

infact every time i have been dragged in there since to help guildies out the damn thing has dropped

sometimes u gotta h8 the RNG

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermannax

A lot of people seem to hate Gnomergan, but for some reason i really like it. (am i the only one?)

As for my dark area, i don't have an instance i hate, but Stranglethorn Vale really gets on my nerves. It just takes so long to do all of the quests, and it is such a big area. However, now that you can get mounts at level 30, STV is much easier to get around for people just starting that area, which kind of makes me mad. It really would have been helpful to have a mount in STV.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPurpleLemon

yea mannax i envy you. you actually have it. liek i said i ran for about 5 months every day so that rounds to about 150 runs and never seen a drop. its not liek for me it dropped and got ninjaed but it simply hated me. My mage friend had a similar experience as I but with the shoulders off the second boss.

Chalk it up to bad luck, but I've had 5 tanks leave my group in 6 runs of MgT. It's not like I was sucking at healing (trust me, I know when I suck), tanks just for whatever reason hate me in MgT (no where else tho :P). This past time, we wiped on trash because the tank pulled a group of mobs while myself and the ele shaman were drinking... he quit after I rezzed his sorry butt, and I did too ... forever

Point being, I never ever intend to ever run MgT ever again ever...

(did i say ever enough?)

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJohn

@Bastosa: With people who aren't situationally aware, SL can suck - there are lots of ways to wipe. However, with a group full of competent raid experienced players (not necessarily raid geared) it is anything but challenging - even on heroic.

@Mannax: Oh wow - that's my favorite heroic! Never had many problems in MgT at all.

Now, to answer the question: I won't ever return to Steamvaults - I had to run it tooooooo many times to get exalted with CE and obtain my freaking Earthwarden, which is basically required for T4 bear tanking. Nothing worse than forcing yourself to do the same instance endlessly for a week. Ugh.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKarthis

I have the worst experiance eva! I decided to run heroic ramparts with some buddies from my guild.We started off fine then ended up wyping so many times on varzul the dragon I just left. I ended up quiting the guild and headed to a much better guild because my guild was still trying to get past moroes in kara!

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAaron

One place i have started to hate is MgT. This is because no matter how good i get as healer or dps i can never seem to get a proper group for it. Everytime i want to do it as dps everyone asks do you have epic chest armor (my blue one is alot better). If i get into a group as healer i keep seeing atleast 2 or 3 hunters who won't under any circumstances cc at all. Beastmaster or not hunter should know some cc cause they can. I'm not going to do MgT until i get a good group from my guild then i might get to do it all the way.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterRúna

I feel for you. I truely hate Slabs and will never go back. I have never wiped so much in any instance and I have done all the heroics. (OK at one point heroic Durn was worse). Even the trash is hard as hell. Its just 1 of those instances you need the perfect group, if not your screwed.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterCrazytree

You think you have it bad? I wish I could even get into an instance, but can't because I have such a hard time getting a group together. And having a lack of experience probably doesn't help my case, but how do you think you become knowledgable about an instance in the first place? >_<

Hellfire Ramparts: 1
Shadow Labyrinth: 1
Botanica: 1
Mechanaar: 1
Magister's Terrace: 1

Those are all the Outland instances I've managed to do a run. For Karazhan I've only been there twice. I've never gotten to do a 25-man raid and probably never will.

So, yes, I can sympathize with encountering bad pugs and whatnot (brewfest boss comes to mind *shudder*). But at least you got to experience more instances more often than I.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAlayea

3 Letters.

MGT!!

The Insta from the Twisted Bastards that Blizz Specifically Created for War Tanks to say "F@$% U!!".

Seriously, 4-5 Mob Pulls Every Time, and Every Pally became a Healadin because "duuur duuur, wez getz mur healzors now."

The Only time I beat that place was 3 Times. The First time, and i mean on the First day the Patch came out, when we had 2 Mages, a Holy Priest and a Shaman. We must have wiped All Freakin Day. 9 Hours, 35 Switches, and God knows how much GOLD!!

Note, this was when I was a war tank, Kara/Guurl's Geared, and for God Sakes, a a Damn Good Aggro Holder. Most of the DPS was too quick at times, but it was all Hell, no matter Who we had. Shamans, Druids, Pallys. The first boss was Cake. The second one was Insane without 2 casters, and the THIRD!? It Should Be a F!#@# Raid Boss!!

You Do NOT Mix PVE Insta with a PVP 5 On 5 Arena Boss. You Spit in Every Tanks Face when u Do This. The Last boss, Compared to That, is Nothing. You Hear That? Kael was Nothing!!

Whoever thought of this insta should have been Shot and Dragged into the Street. Oh, and BTW, the Other 2 times were Only when my Guild needed to switch out there tired tanks.

Yeah I tanked the Heroic, got the Trinket and the Sword on the First run. Only time I EVER beat it then. The only thing I can say is, Next time an Insta like that is EVER created, you will Not be able to Pay me to get Back in there, Ever, Again. Without a 2 Mages, a Holy/Disc Priest, and a Pally Tank.

Other than that, Never, Again. Ever. Ever. EVER!!

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNextgener

I actually find SL to be one of the easier Heroics, I really don't know how you guys are having issues on it.

The only actual hard boss in there is Murmur, and as long as you have a group that works well together, it should go smooth.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterXylch

i can clearly say that ive run slabs enough times to be exalted on 5 caracters and its still anoying as the first. That instance is just a ton of tough trouble and i tend to avoid it now.

October 2, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGeorge

ive always avoided kara, takes too long imo, all instances sgould be like heroic ramps.

October 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAguzar - Darkspear (EU)

ok seriously, Dorkins, the BM hunter, you need to make some macros because in every ep I see of Lore, your pet jimmy is at your side for like 90% of the pulls. I just got a lvl 27 hunter but I start with this macro:

#showtooltip Hunter's Mark
/startattack (this will start your auto shoot AND auto-target the nearest target if you have none, 35 yard range)
/petattack (sends in pet to do his thing... BM is alot of pet dmg)
/cast Hunter's Mark

or copy paste the petattack line into your steady shot macro or arcane shot macro. A BM hunter should NEVER have his pet idle beside him. Mabye do a lore episode about useful macros?

/cast Rapid Fire (I just use it every cooldown to not have to remember it)
/use 14 (also use trinkets at every cooldown)

GoodLuck!

/Swedish Man

October 3, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterswedish man

I'm lvl 36 and have only done 3 instances (stockades, DM and Gnomer) and I liked them all really. Stockades was a bit boring but it's more of a boosting instance anyways. Even though it was long I loved gnomer! I got every single rare drop on the first run! We had a 70 preist in the group though, lol.

October 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterUltimateWolf

I am a level 70 rogue and had done plenty of instances on heroic, but one I had never done was the arcatraz. Me and 3 of my friends were in one house playing and the Internet connection is not too stable there.

We inlisted the help of a tank friend and we got under way. We had been D/C'ing all night and then it suddenly stopped happening. I thought I might actaully get a chance to enjoy the instance, but no. We hit the first boss and everything seemed to be going fine and then LAG!! We all lagged out, except for the tank who was playing somewhere else. We get logged back in and all that is left is a huge bloody mess.

This happened on every boss atleast 2-3 times. Lets just say that the run got rather boring. We eventually managed to get through the instance with some rather expensive repair bills.

I guess I wouldn't mind trying to go there again on my own, stable Internet connect. But, that particular run has left many bad memories.

October 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBeartrucci

Funny, how everybody is cursing Heroic Magister's Terrace above while this is really my favorite dungeon. Since I stopped doing Heroics this is the ONLY dungeon I am still up for (and I am actually farming it to add the bird mount to my collection).

There are some dungeons which I like and some which I dislike, but there isn't really one in particular I try to avoid. However, there is one raid boss I dislike most of all bosses which is Archimonde (besides that I think MH itself is damn boring).

Archimonde is too much of a retard check, and well, we always had retards in my previous guilds. For a Hunter Archimonde isn't really a lot of fun, you're continuously running and you can't make your pet attack the boss or it will die. I have been on too many wipes (including full evenings from 19:00 to 23:00) to still want to waste my time there and he hasn't got anything for me anyway.

October 3, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterZerotorescue

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